MCSD, MCP, MVP

I know this not the right place to post this question, but I've seen couple
of people with these certification.

Although i know what is MCSD but i dont know the difference between MCSD,
MCP and MVPMCP means a person has passed on exam.
MCSD means a person has completed all five exams necessary for developer
certification.

Both of these can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/traincert

MVP is a professional award for people who participate in peer-to-peer
support, like this forum. You can find info at
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com.

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Gregory A. Beamer
MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA

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"Arsalan" <arsalan_aslam@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I know this not the right place to post this question, but I've seen
couple
> of people with these certification.
>
> Although i know what is MCSD but i dont know the difference between MCSD,
> MCP and MVP
Thanks, just clearing one exam of MCSD is enough for MCP ??
"Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) [MVP]" <NoSpamMgbworld@.comcast.netNoSpamM> wrote
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> MCP means a person has passed on exam.
> MCSD means a person has completed all five exams necessary for developer
> certification.
> Both of these can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/traincert
> MVP is a professional award for people who participate in peer-to-peer
> support, like this forum. You can find info at
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com.
> --
> Gregory A. Beamer
> MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA
> ************************************************
> Think Outside the Box!
> ************************************************
> "Arsalan" <arsalan_aslam@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eD2NKnHTEHA.3724@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I know this not the right place to post this question, but I've seen
> couple
> > of people with these certification.
> > Although i know what is MCSD but i dont know the difference between
MCSD,
> > MCP and MVP
Yes.

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I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP
http://Steve.Orr.net

> Thanks, just clearing one exam of MCSD is enough for MCP ??
In news: OMkKbIJTEHA.1172@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl,
Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) [MVP] <NoSpamMgbworld@.comcast.netNoSpamM> wrote:
> MCSD means a person has completed all five exams necessary for
> developer certification.

Hi Cowboy,

While the MCSD for .NET requires 5 exams, the MCSD for Visual Studio 6
requires only 4. VS6 certifications will remain active even though the exams
themselves will be retired on June 30, 2004.

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Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com
which certification gets the most attention from propective employers? MVP,
MCSD or MCP?

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Regards,
Alvin Bruney
[ASP.NET MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx]
Got tidbits? Get it here... http://tinyurl.com/27cok
"Cindy Winegarden" <cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org> wrote in message
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> In news: OMkKbIJTEHA.1172@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl,
> Cowboy (Gregory A. Beamer) [MVP] <NoSpamMgbworld@.comcast.netNoSpamM>
> wrote:
>> MCSD means a person has completed all five exams necessary for
>> developer certification.
> Hi Cowboy,
> While the MCSD for .NET requires 5 exams, the MCSD for Visual Studio 6
> requires only 4. VS6 certifications will remain active even though the
> exams
> themselves will be retired on June 30, 2004.
> --
> Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
> cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com
In news: %23utiSRcTEHA.3404@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Alvin Bruney [MVP] <vapor at steaming post office> wrote:
> which certification gets the most attention from propective
> employers? MVP, MCSD or MCP?

I'm sure it varies widely from employer to employer. MCP is a subset of MCSD
so I'm sure MCSD would get more attention than MCP. The MCSD might have more
knowledge and experience, although some very qualified people just never
take cert exams.

MVP is _not_ a certification. It's an award for peer-to-peer support, mostly
in online forums, based on activity in the previous 12 months.

--
Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com
In news: %23utiSRcTEHA.3404@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Alvin Bruney [MVP] <vapor at steaming post office> wrote:
> which certification gets the most attention from propective
> employers? MVP, MCSD or MCP?

I'm sure it varies widely from employer to employer. MCP is a subset of MCSD
so I'm sure MCSD would get more attention than MCP. The MCSD might have more
knowledge and experience, although some very qualified people just never
take cert exams.

MVP is _not_ a certification. It's an award for peer-to-peer support, mostly
in online forums, based on activity in the previous 12 months.

--
Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com
MVP certainly does carry some weight with some employers, however. I know
this from personal experience.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

"Cindy Winegarden" <cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OvN95ZjTEHA.1368@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> In news: %23utiSRcTEHA.3404@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
> Alvin Bruney [MVP] <vapor at steaming post office> wrote:
> > which certification gets the most attention from propective
> > employers? MVP, MCSD or MCP?
> I'm sure it varies widely from employer to employer. MCP is a subset of
MCSD
> so I'm sure MCSD would get more attention than MCP. The MCSD might have
more
> knowledge and experience, although some very qualified people just never
> take cert exams.
> MVP is _not_ a certification. It's an award for peer-to-peer support,
mostly
> in online forums, based on activity in the previous 12 months.
> --
> Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
> cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com
MVP certainly does carry some weight with some employers, however. I know
this from personal experience.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

"Cindy Winegarden" <cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OvN95ZjTEHA.1368@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> In news: %23utiSRcTEHA.3404@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
> Alvin Bruney [MVP] <vapor at steaming post office> wrote:
> > which certification gets the most attention from propective
> > employers? MVP, MCSD or MCP?
> I'm sure it varies widely from employer to employer. MCP is a subset of
MCSD
> so I'm sure MCSD would get more attention than MCP. The MCSD might have
more
> knowledge and experience, although some very qualified people just never
> take cert exams.
> MVP is _not_ a certification. It's an award for peer-to-peer support,
mostly
> in online forums, based on activity in the previous 12 months.
> --
> Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
> cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com
Second that. Got me a job.

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com

"Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@.takempis.com> wrote in message
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> MVP certainly does carry some weight with some employers, however. I know
> this from personal experience.
> --
> HTH,
> Kevin Spencer
> .Net Developer
> Microsoft MVP
> Big things are made up
> of lots of little things.
> "Cindy Winegarden" <cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:OvN95ZjTEHA.1368@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > In news: %23utiSRcTEHA.3404@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
> > Alvin Bruney [MVP] <vapor at steaming post office> wrote:
> > > which certification gets the most attention from propective
> > > employers? MVP, MCSD or MCP?
> > I'm sure it varies widely from employer to employer. MCP is a subset of
> MCSD
> > so I'm sure MCSD would get more attention than MCP. The MCSD might have
> more
> > knowledge and experience, although some very qualified people just never
> > take cert exams.
> > MVP is _not_ a certification. It's an award for peer-to-peer support,
> mostly
> > in online forums, based on activity in the previous 12 months.
> > --
> > Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
> > cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com
What i was really asking was which one makes you more marketable assuming
you can study for one of them.

Yes you can study for the MVP.

--
Regards,
Alvin Bruney
[ASP.NET MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx]
Got tidbits? Get it here... http://tinyurl.com/27cok
"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:OTR0RDlTEHA.808@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Second that. Got me a job.
> --
> Curt Christianson
> Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
> Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
>
> "Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@.takempis.com> wrote in message
> news:eVQL8YkTEHA.808@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> MVP certainly does carry some weight with some employers, however. I know
>> this from personal experience.
>>
>> --
>> HTH,
>> Kevin Spencer
>> .Net Developer
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Big things are made up
>> of lots of little things.
>>
>> "Cindy Winegarden" <cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:OvN95ZjTEHA.1368@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > In news: %23utiSRcTEHA.3404@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
>> > Alvin Bruney [MVP] <vapor at steaming post office> wrote:
>> > > which certification gets the most attention from propective
>> > > employers? MVP, MCSD or MCP?
>>> > I'm sure it varies widely from employer to employer. MCP is a subset of
>> MCSD
>> > so I'm sure MCSD would get more attention than MCP. The MCSD might have
>> more
>> > knowledge and experience, although some very qualified people just
>> > never
>> > take cert exams.
>>> > MVP is _not_ a certification. It's an award for peer-to-peer support,
>> mostly
>> > in online forums, based on activity in the previous 12 months.
>>> > --
>> > Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
>> > cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com
>>>>>
>>
Second that. Got me a job.

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com

"Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@.takempis.com> wrote in message
news:eVQL8YkTEHA.808@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> MVP certainly does carry some weight with some employers, however. I know
> this from personal experience.
> --
> HTH,
> Kevin Spencer
> .Net Developer
> Microsoft MVP
> Big things are made up
> of lots of little things.
> "Cindy Winegarden" <cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:OvN95ZjTEHA.1368@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > In news: %23utiSRcTEHA.3404@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
> > Alvin Bruney [MVP] <vapor at steaming post office> wrote:
> > > which certification gets the most attention from propective
> > > employers? MVP, MCSD or MCP?
> > I'm sure it varies widely from employer to employer. MCP is a subset of
> MCSD
> > so I'm sure MCSD would get more attention than MCP. The MCSD might have
> more
> > knowledge and experience, although some very qualified people just never
> > take cert exams.
> > MVP is _not_ a certification. It's an award for peer-to-peer support,
> mostly
> > in online forums, based on activity in the previous 12 months.
> > --
> > Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
> > cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com
What i was really asking was which one makes you more marketable assuming
you can study for one of them.

Yes you can study for the MVP.

--
Regards,
Alvin Bruney
[ASP.NET MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx]
Got tidbits? Get it here... http://tinyurl.com/27cok
"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:OTR0RDlTEHA.808@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Second that. Got me a job.
> --
> Curt Christianson
> Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
> Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
>
> "Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@.takempis.com> wrote in message
> news:eVQL8YkTEHA.808@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> MVP certainly does carry some weight with some employers, however. I know
>> this from personal experience.
>>
>> --
>> HTH,
>> Kevin Spencer
>> .Net Developer
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Big things are made up
>> of lots of little things.
>>
>> "Cindy Winegarden" <cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:OvN95ZjTEHA.1368@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > In news: %23utiSRcTEHA.3404@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
>> > Alvin Bruney [MVP] <vapor at steaming post office> wrote:
>> > > which certification gets the most attention from propective
>> > > employers? MVP, MCSD or MCP?
>>> > I'm sure it varies widely from employer to employer. MCP is a subset of
>> MCSD
>> > so I'm sure MCSD would get more attention than MCP. The MCSD might have
>> more
>> > knowledge and experience, although some very qualified people just
>> > never
>> > take cert exams.
>>> > MVP is _not_ a certification. It's an award for peer-to-peer support,
>> mostly
>> > in online forums, based on activity in the previous 12 months.
>>> > --
>> > Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
>> > cindy.winegarden@.mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com
>>>>>
>>